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A 9-month wait for arthritis treatment: Delay can mean a lifetime of agony for victims

A GP examins a patient's hand for signs of arthritis, but a report says many are not trained to know what help to offer

Thousands of rheumatoid arthritis sufferers face a lifetime of agony because they are not being treated quickly enough, a report says.

Guidelines state that patients should receive treatment within three months of the first symptoms appearing.

But the average wait is nine months - and GPs are not trained well enough to know what help to offer.

There is no cure, but experts say that if arthritis is diagnosed in the first three months, drugs can be given which limit its progression. This means the disease will not be as painful as it would have been if the condition was diagnosed later.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1199714/A-9-month-wait-arthritis-treatment-Delay-mean-lifetime-agony-victims.html#ixzz0LOc7K0Kk

Waiting to see a doctor can effect you for the rest of your life. And how are there NOT going to be enormous wait-times with everyone in the country in the system. Are they going to find a few thousand more doctors to treat people - after they build a few thousand more hospitals?

People have their head in the clouds about how wonderful this would be - without thinking of the realities.

My Recent Posts · 07/16/2009

Thousands of rheumatoid arthritis sufferers face a lifetime of agony because they are not being treated quickly enough,

That happens now, particularly with RA sufferers and other diseases, who don't have insurance. And if you have insurance, until you meet your yearly deductible, (if you have ins. in the first place) so if don't have the money, you are waiting; and if you need to rely on out of network physicians, especially a specialist, you have another deductible on top of that. Insurance companies have our system so fucked up it can't get any worse. And if you don't know that, it because you don't have an insurance company in the first place, or you're wealthy enough to cover all those deductibles, and extras that the insurance companies won't pay for anyway. We're in a crisis, and insurance companies have been the instigators.

My Recent Posts · 07/16/2009

The argument of R Reagan being responsible for California's current woes reminds me of a supposedly well edcucated man from the old MSN groups who attempted to blame GW Bush for the start of the Progressive Movement.When I pointed out that Teddy Roosevelt started America on that road in 1912,so there was no way GW Bush could be responsible he paniced.Turns out he had been following the thinking of George Sorias,and his leftwing cronies.
California has had problems with being dead broke since 1848,last time I checked Reagan was not Governor or even alive at that time.

As far as a better,more affordable system of healthcare for America,that is a certain need.Perhaps the answer is as simple as preventing ailements in the first place as well as an increase in primary care doctors.Doctors in this field are in short supply,too many wish to specialize and earn even more money.With the cost of Medical School and starting a private practice,one cannot blame them.

My Recent Posts · 07/17/2009

The problem with your theory, there's no way some ailments can be prevented.

My Recent Posts · 07/17/2009

Proper diet and exercise go a long way to prevention as well as early intervention when a problem arises.

My Recent Posts · 07/17/2009

That's quite the dream scenario you have.

My Recent Posts · 07/20/2009

Lots of people are perfectly healthy either because they got lucky with their genes or because they eat healthy and/or exercise.

I wish I were one of them, lol.

Of course there are medical problems that will happen to some people no matter what they do - but there are also plenty of people who will die with people saying, "They never had a sick day in their life."

My Recent Posts · 07/21/2009

SO Linche wrote:
Lots of people are perfectly healthy either because they got lucky with their genes or because they eat healthy and/or exercise.

I wish I were one of them, lol.

Of course there are medical problems that will happen to some people no matter what they do - but there are also plenty of people who will die with people saying, "They never had a sick day in their life."

Remember him!?

My Recent Posts · 07/22/2009

Huh? :)

My Recent Posts · 07/25/2009

SO Linche wrote:
Huh? :)

Did you click on the link?

My Recent Posts · 07/25/2009

Sorry, Maddie. I didn't realize it was a link.

That's so funny - because I swear I had thought of him when posting in this topic. He's like the poster boy example of how eating right and exercising guarantees nothing.

And it's also true that some people live so hard you'd think they'd keel over at 40 but live to be 100, lol.

My Recent Posts · 07/26/2009

Exactly right, there are no guarantees when it comes to health, no matter what anyone does or doesn't do.

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Posts: 16024 07/16/2009 1:12 AM Owner/Admin Governor Thinking of you, Snowy	A 9-month wait for arthritis treatment: Delay can mean a lifetime of agony for victims A GP examins a patient's hand for signs of arthritis, but a report says many are not trained to know what help to offer Thousands of rheumatoid arthritis sufferers face a lifetime of agony because they are not being treated quickly enough, a report says. Guidelines state that patients should receive treatment within three months of the first symptoms appearing. But the average wait is nine months - and GPs are not trained well enough to know what help to offer. There is no cure, but experts say that if arthritis is diagnosed in the first three months, drugs can be given which limit its progression. This means the disease will not be as painful as it would have been if the condition was diagnosed later. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1199714/A-9-month-wait-arthritis-treatment-Delay-mean-lifetime-agony-victims.html#ixzz0LOc7K0Kk Waiting to see a doctor can effect you for the rest of your life. And how are there NOT going to be enormous wait-times with everyone in the country in the system. Are they going to find a few thousand more doctors to treat people - after they build a few thousand more hospitals? People have their head in the clouds about how wonderful this would be - without thinking of the realities. Worst Debate Tactic Ever: Take your opponent's argument to a ridiculous extreme and then attack the extreme.
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Posts: 2079 07/16/2009 11:56 AM State Rep	Thousands of rheumatoid arthritis sufferers face a lifetime of agony because they are not being treated quickly enough, That happens now, particularly with RA sufferers and other diseases, who don't have insurance. And if you have insurance, until you meet your yearly deductible, (if you have ins. in the first place) so if don't have the money, you are waiting; and if you need to rely on out of network physicians, especially a specialist, you have another deductible on top of that. Insurance companies have our system so fucked up it can't get any worse. And if you don't know that, it because you don't have an insurance company in the first place, or you're wealthy enough to cover all those deductibles, and extras that the insurance companies won't pay for anyway. We're in a crisis, and insurance companies have been the instigators. Last Edited By: cmadison 07/16/2009 12:01 PM. Edited 1 time.
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Posts: 32 07/16/2009 2:21 PM	The argument of R Reagan being responsible for California's current woes reminds me of a supposedly well edcucated man from the old MSN groups who attempted to blame GW Bush for the start of the Progressive Movement.When I pointed out that Teddy Roosevelt started America on that road in 1912,so there was no way GW Bush could be responsible he paniced.Turns out he had been following the thinking of George Sorias,and his leftwing cronies. California has had problems with being dead broke since 1848,last time I checked Reagan was not Governor or even alive at that time. As far as a better,more affordable system of healthcare for America,that is a certain need.Perhaps the answer is as simple as preventing ailements in the first place as well as an increase in primary care doctors.Doctors in this field are in short supply,too many wish to specialize and earn even more money.With the cost of Medical School and starting a private practice,one cannot blame them.
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Posts: 2079 07/17/2009 1:57 PM State Rep	The problem with your theory, there's no way some ailments can be prevented.
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Posts: 32 07/17/2009 5:27 PM	Proper diet and exercise go a long way to prevention as well as early intervention when a problem arises.
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Posts: 2079 07/17/2009 8:19 PM State Rep	That's quite the dream scenario you have.
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Posts: 16024 07/20/2009 11:29 PM Owner/Admin Governor Thinking of you, Snowy	Lots of people are perfectly healthy either because they got lucky with their genes or because they eat healthy and/or exercise. I wish I were one of them, lol. Of course there are medical problems that will happen to some people no matter what they do - but there are also plenty of people who will die with people saying, "They never had a sick day in their life." Worst Debate Tactic Ever: Take your opponent's argument to a ridiculous extreme and then attack the extreme.
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Posts: 2079 07/21/2009 6:02 PM State Rep	SO Linche wrote: Lots of people are perfectly healthy either because they got lucky with their genes or because they eat healthy and/or exercise. I wish I were one of them, lol. Of course there are medical problems that will happen to some people no matter what they do - but there are also plenty of people who will die with people saying, "They never had a sick day in their life." Remember him!?
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Posts: 16024 07/22/2009 12:08 AM Owner/Admin Governor Thinking of you, Snowy	Huh? :) Worst Debate Tactic Ever: Take your opponent's argument to a ridiculous extreme and then attack the extreme.
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Posts: 2079 07/25/2009 3:25 PM State Rep	SO Linche wrote: Huh? :) Did you click on the link?
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Posts: 16024 07/25/2009 11:35 PM Owner/Admin Governor Thinking of you, Snowy	Sorry, Maddie. I didn't realize it was a link. That's so funny - because I swear I had thought of him when posting in this topic. He's like the poster boy example of how eating right and exercising guarantees nothing. And it's also true that some people live so hard you'd think they'd keel over at 40 but live to be 100, lol. Worst Debate Tactic Ever: Take your opponent's argument to a ridiculous extreme and then attack the extreme.
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Posts: 2079 07/26/2009 12:15 AM State Rep	Exactly right, there are no guarantees when it comes to health, no matter what anyone does or doesn't do.
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